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Saturday, July 3, 2021

Rose Manor in South Creake [north west] West Norfolk, Norfolk, England.

 Rose Manor in South Creake [north west] West Norfolk, Norfolk, England. 

With the advownson of St.Andrew's belonged to Brode, in the Confessor's time, and to William Earl Warren in the Conqueror's, of whom Simon held it, the whole town being then above two miles long, and one broad, paid 11d. Geld. In 1194, Wakelin de Rosey gave 20s to King Richard I to have seizin of 12s 7d rent, of the service of Hervy Gore, in such manner as Baldwin de Rosey had, when he began his journey to Jerusalem, where he died., this Baldwin was lord here, and contemporary, if not brother, to Roger de Rossei, or de Rosseto, lord of Rose's Manor in South-Creke. In 1218 another Baldwin de Rosseto held it of the Earl of Warren at one fee.

The above [later in the 13th century known as Carbonel’s Manor, after William Carbonel] is recorded as being owned in tenent by a Wakelin de Rosey [Rosei] in 1194. Wakelin gave 20s to King Richard I to have seizin of 12s. 7a.Rent of the service of Hervy Gorge, in such manner as Baldwin de Rosey had, when he began his journey to Jerusalem, where he died: This Baldwin was Lord here, comtemporary, if not the brother, to Roger de Rossei, or de Rossetto, Lord of Rose’s Manor in South-Creke. In 1218, another Baldwin de Rosetto held it of the Earl Warren at one fee, in 1234, Robert Carbonel was Lord; from 1310-1340, Henry Carbonel and his wife Catherine had it, who held it after her husband’s death to her own, which was before 1399, for then Maud their daughter presented , and it soon divided, and one part with the Advowson, came to the Holdiches, who presented until 1571, and afterwards sold it to Sir Ralph Chaumberleyn, Knt. receiving two or three turns to the family; the other part went to William de Narburgh, whose daughter Ela, married Thomas Shudlam, and had a son by him of his father’s name [William de Narburgh] but he did not inherit, the manor being given by his mother to Henry, her second husband, and his heirs, and their son William Spelman inherited . In 1488, Henry Spelman died seized, and left it to Edmund Paston Esq, to perform his Will, at such which time ‘twas held of the Earl Warren, at the 4th part of a Fee, in 1606, Francis Spelman, Esq was Lord of Carbonel’s in Rockland, in which family it hath continued to this time; it being now owned by Mrs Elizabeth Spelman of London. The Lete belongs to the Hundred, the Fine is at the Lord’s Will, and the Eldest Son is Heir.


Could be related or recorded as: Baldvinus Vicecomes

William de Roucestria alias de Roucestre; from Suffolk – tenant of: Eriswell Manor ; Norfolk: Barton Bendish manor; Hertfordshire: Newsells manor, Weston town


The Thane Godwin referred to above may be:

Godwin of Wessex (Old English: Godƿin; died 15 April 1053) became one of the most powerful earls in England under the Danish king Cnut the Great (King of England from 1016 to 1035) and his successors. Cnut made Godwin the first Earl of Wessex (c.  1020). Godwin was the father of King Harold Godwinson (r. January – October 1066) and of Edith of Wessex, who married in 1045 King Edward the Confessor (r. 1042–1066).


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